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Kate White


LETHALLY BLOND

OVER HER DEAD BODY

'TIL DEATH DO US PART

IF LOOKS COULD KILL

A BODY TO DIE FOR

Kate White

BIO

Kate White is the editor in chief of Cosmopolitan magazine. She is also the author of the Business Week bestseller WHY GOOD GIRLS DON'T GET AHEAD BUT GUTSY GIRLS DO and NINE SECRETS OF WOMEN WHO GET EVERYTHING THEY WANT. Ms. White lives in New York City and can be reached at www.katewhite.com.

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AUTHOR TALK

July 2005

Kate White is the editor-in-chief of Cosmopolitan magazine, author of the bestselling Bailey Weggins mystery series, and mother of two teenagers. Throughout the years she has learned various tricks and time-management strategies that have allowed her to write fiction on a consistent basis while holding a full-time job. In this essay White offers some helpful tips to those who would like to write a book but don't think they'd have the time or energy to complete such a massive undertaking.

How to Write a Book When You Have a Job, Kids, or Your Life is Otherwise Crazed

Probably the question I get asked most frequently when I do book signings is "How do you manage to write fiction when you have a full-time job?" I've often thought the question should be "Why do you manage to write fiction when you have a full-time job?" Because there are moments when it seems insane to be writing a book a year while running Cosmopolitan magazine --- and parenting two teenagers.

But if you're like me --- and I suspect you are since you're reading this --- you fantasized for years about writing books. From the time I was little I had a secret dream to publish a mystery series, and I just hated to think I was never going to get around to it. For financial reasons going on a sabbatical from my job as editor-in-chief of Cosmopolitan wasn't an option (and besides, who would want to give up writing cover lines like "Mattress Moves So Hot His Thighs Will Burst into Flames"?), so one day I decided to take the plunge regardless of the fact that my plate was heaped pretty high.

At first I was crazed, but over time I've learned a handful of tricks that have made writing my books easier. I've also relied on a few nifty time-management strategies that I came across while writing articles on the subject back in my twenties. If there's a book you're dying to write, but you're not sure how the heck you can pull it off, some of these tips may prove useful.

Don't keep waiting for the right moment or you'll wait forever, but accept that there are some stages in life when it's next to impossible to pull off a book.

I could never have written fiction when my kids were small. My life as a working mom was just too nutty. My husband worked nights, making it even trickier because there was no one to lend a hand at critical moments in the evenings. My husband Brad and I were laughing lately as we recalled one incident from the time our firstborn was about a year old. Brad called one night to see how things were going and I gave him a short recap: "Fine, fine," I said. "I took Hudson for a walk in the park and then we ran to the grocery store and then we had dinner and now we're just hanging out at home, playing on the floor." There was a long, odd pause and finally my husband announced quietly, "Kate, his name is Hunter."

It's seems funny now, but it also reflects the fact that there were always a few blown out fuses in my brain back then. Not only would it have been impossible for me to write a book, but also I wouldn't have wanted to sacrifice any parenting time.

Today, however, it's a different story. My kids are 15 and 17 and they sleep till noon on Saturday and Sunday. Tolkien could write another Lord of the Rings trilogy in a writing block this big.

Just know that there are some periods in life that you simply will have to view as your prologue to being a writer.

Find a genre that will pull you like a magnet.

When I was younger, I made a stab at literary fiction and I used to dread my writing time. It had about as much allure as washing out two-weeks worth of pantyhose by hand. When, years later, I decided to try the crime genre, my agent suggested stand-alone thrillers because they have the potential for big sales, but I opted to do a whodunit instead. It just had more appeal for me and I wanted to do everything in my power this time to make my computer beckon me each day-or at least not repel me.

And it does beckon (for the most part) because I really do enjoy writing mysteries. Though my mysteries have a contemporary protagonist (Bailey Weggins), they're really what are called cozies --- classic whodunits with lots of suspects, clues and red herrings. I get a huge kick from working out the puzzle in the plot, laying down the clues and doing everything in my power to keep the reader guessing. I'm not saying that writing isn't arduous and tedious at times, but the mystery element somehow pulls me along, keeps me from hitting the snooze button too many times on Saturday and Sunday mornings.

So experiment a bit with different types of fiction (as well as the first person versus the third) until you find the one that's the most seductive. For instance, maybe the police procedural would hold appeal for you because you're a nut for details. You don't have much time so you really need to want to spend it on your book.

Really, really write about the world you know.

Books on writing always urge that you write about what you know. That said, there are plenty of examples of fabulous books by authors who didn't start off knowing a subject but did a ton of research. But if you've got a job or kids, you don't have the time to study dinosaur DNA or the cult of the Blessed Virgin Mary. Finding a story in the world you inhabit will make it so much easier to reach the finish line.

I always wanted to write about a female private eye. But because I had no time to explore that realm, I set my books in the world of magazines and made my character a crime writer and amateur sleuth.

I still have to interview cops and forensics experts --- I do that on my lunch hour --- but I don't have to spend any time investigating how a magazine works. Plus, I overhear great lines right at Cosmo and stick many of them right into my books.

And what if your world seems a bit dull to you? Just make it more fascinating when you write. Populate it with riveting or terrifying characters that compensate for any dullness of environment.

Make a list of all the things you can unload from your life that will leave you more time for writing.

There are some things I absolutely can't do because I've chosen to have a full time job and write books, too. I don't do any crafts. I practically never shop. Oh, I stop off at stores and grab clothes in this kind of blitzkrieg way, but I never spend a Saturday poking around little boutiques and topping the experience off with a double latte at Starbucks. There are some things I wish I didn't have to sacrifice, but others I don't mind having given up. I hired a college student to help me deal with many little jobs --- like ordering books on line and planning family vacations --- and that's been a godsend. My greatest unloading strategy involves exercise. I don't like to exercise, but I want to look and feel good. I read this book called "The Power of Ten" that suggests that if you do it the right way, you only have to work out once a week for under an hour. I feel in really good shape from following the guidelines in the book, and even if I stopped writing, I'd never give up this approach.

Decide on your writing time and make it sacred, even if you don't use all of it.

Some people may be great at grabbing moments to write at odd times here and there, but I'm not one of them. If I were to wing it and wait for the right moment to summon me, I'd only be up to about page 16 on my first mystery. There's got to be a certain inviolable period each day for me to write. In picking your time, it helps if you figure out when you are most likely to get into "the zone," that period during which ideas and words just seem to flow. I've always been a night owl, but oddly I've found that writing fiction comes easiest to me in the mornings. I also need absolute quiet and a big flat surface --- though not everyone is so particular. I've heard Scott Turow say that he wrote his first book, Presumed Innocent, on the commuter train each day.

Learn how to slice the salami.

Does this scenario sound familiar? The weekend approaches and the forecast is for rain. You tell yourself, "Perfect, I'm going to use all day Saturday to write. I'll get my whole first chapter done." Saturday dawns and you mean to settle down at your desk but the idea of writing all day starts to seem overwhelming. You putter around a bit, pour a second cup of coffee, scrub the grime off the stovetop, watch the rain, skim the paper, field two phone calls, telling yourself all the while that you will find your way to your computer eventually. But it never happens.

Years ago a time management expert named Edwin Bliss told me that the biggest mistake we make with a big project is to make it too daunting. He says the key is to break big projects down into manageable segments. It's a little big like cutting a big old ugly hunk of salami into appetizing slices. That's what you need to do with your writing time and or else will avoid it like the plague.

I used Bliss' brilliant little strategy to trick myself into writing each day. For the first six months I told myself I was only going to write for 15 minutes a day. Fifteen minutes was my personal salami slice, and it was never hard to manage. Over time it became easier so I extended the fifteen minutes to thirty and then sixty and then to about two and half hours on each day of weekend. Sometimes I write even longer than that but I never plan on more. On weekdays I aim for an hour. There's something else that I found is helpful if your time is limited. Set a goal of pages to accomplish during your writing block. It pushes you to that amount. And if they aren't great, you can edit them later.

Plot Your Books While You Are Standing in Line or driving or cooking or waiting for the bread to pop out of the toaster.

If your have a full-time job or you're a stay-at-home mom, you don't have lots of desk time but you don't have to be plopped in front of your computer in order to plan out your chapters, create characters, untie the knots in your plot, etc. Use odd bits of time to do the non-writing parts of writing. I've found the shower to be a fabulous place to work on dialogue. I do it out loud --- though I hope my next door neighbors, whose bathroom wall abuts ours, aren't too alarmed when they hear me shout things like: "You killed her, you bastard, didn't you?"

Let ideas flow from the outside in.

Though I find writing tough at times, one part of the process that I absolutely love is sitting in my little home office with a notebook, getting inside my head and thinking of ideas for my books. But I don't have the luxury of doing that very often because I have to use my writing time each day to actually write. Thus I end up doing much of my idea generating when I'm out. But here's the amazing thing about that little sacrifice. I've come to see how many fabulous ideas come from the outside in, when I'm traveling or driving through Central Park or sitting in a restaurant. OVER HER DEAD BODY, my brand new book and the fourth in the Bailey Weggins series, is about the world of celebrity journalism and I got the idea while standing at a fashion show, watching someone devour one of those magazines. There's one trick I learned that facilitates it. You have to think about what you need creatively and form it into a question. For instance, "Where does the killer hide the weapon?" Trust me, you will be standing at an airline counter one day and someone next to you will say the weirdest thing that offer the answer to you right there.

Write every day, even for just five minutes.

This will be tough, because you've got that damn job of yours, or those kids needing rides to soccer practice, but if you force yourself to write every single day, even for just a little bit, it makes it so much easier to do it the next day.

Good luck!!!

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PAST INTERVIEW

July 10, 2003

Kate White's latest book is A BODY TO DIE FOR, a follow-up to her bestselling debut novel IF LOOKS COULD KILL, featuring magazine writer-turned-sleuth Bailey Weggins. In this interview White talks Bookreporter.com co-Founder Carol Fitzgerald about the research she did for A BODY TO DIE FOR, the techniques she employs when writing  her novels, and her recommendations for great summer reads.

BRC: As a character Bailey Weggins is so well-developed and fleshed out --- and real. Do you think that your years of editing magazines for women Bailey's age helped you write her?

KW: Yes and no. Every day as editor of Cosmopolitan I focus on the lives of 20- and 30-year-olds, which is an enormous help when writing about 33-year-old Bailey Weggins. But at the same time, magazine writing is so different from fiction. When I was first starting my mystery series, I really had to shake off my magazine writing style and that took time.

BRC: Most of the action in A BODY TO DIE FOR takes place in a spa. How much time did you spend at spas doing research? Had you spent a lot of time at spas prior to writing this book? What's your personal favorite spa treatment?

KW: Since my job at Cosmo is stressful at times, I've been trying to make a massage a monthly treat for myself over the last few years. But when I started to research the book, I tried all sorts of different treatments and sometimes I had as many as two treatments a week. Gosh, was that ever delicious. My favorite of all is the hot stone treatment. Some people don't find it as intense as regular Swedish massage, but I find it wonderfully exotic and relaxing. I have to confess, I now have massages even more frequently than I used to, but they're worth it. Since I began researching the book, I haven't had a cold.

BRC: Did you find it easier to write this second book, or were there different challenges?

KW: Developing the plot of my second book was harder than the first because I had far less time. I'd had a decade to get the plot for book one --- because I'd been mulling over writing a mystery for years --- and practically no time for the second one. I went to a day spa for an afternoon to try to relax and open my mind creatively. And the funny thing is, it was there that I came up with the idea to set the second book in the spa.  Writing the second book was actually easier because I stumbled on a strategy that made a lot of difference. I made myself write a little every day, rather than just on weekends. It really keeps your engine running to use this approach and you never feel out of the groove with the book.

BRC: Do you outline your books in advance, or do you let the story and characters evolve? If you outline, have you ever changed your plan once you started writing?

KW: Yes, I outline my books in advance. I did some research on how to write a mystery before I started, and most successful writers seem to advise that you do an outline and definitely know who the killer is in advance. That prevents you from being boxed into a corner and also allows you to sprinkle clues and red herrings along the way. That said, the story and characters evolve on their own as I'm writing, as I hear is true for all writers. It's so startling when you're writing and a character suddenly announces something or does something that you had never intended. I think for me it's probably one of the most exhilarating parts of being a writer.

BRC: Do you keep notes on what your characters have done to ensure that the books stay consistent? How do you do this?

KW: Yes, I keep notes on what my characters have done to ensure the books stay consistent. I keep little files on people right in my computer.

BRC: Have you seen people reading your book? Do you introduce yourself to them as the author? Do you do the same thing when you see people reading Cosmo?

KW: Yes, I've seen people reading my books but I've always been too sheepish to say anything. And yes, I frequently see people reading Cosmo, which I get a huge kick out of as well.

BRC: Can you share a particularly interesting encounter with a fan when you were traveling, or from a letter you received?

KW: My most exciting and interesting encounter with a fan was when I was in an event and I was told Bill Clinton wanted to meet me. I had no idea why, but he came up to me and told me he loved Bailey and my first murder mystery, IF LOOKS COULD KILL.

BRC: If I remember correctly, your children are now teenagers. Have they read your books? What is their take on Bailey and Mom's writing fiction?

KW: My son Hunter is fifteen and one of the greatest joys for me was seeing him tear through my books. He told me he couldn't put them down. But he also asked me if I'd had them ghost written because he couldn't believe I could create a character who was cool.

BRC: What's next for Bailey? And when can we expect to see the next book in the series? Does it have a title yet?

KW: My next book, which will be finished this fall, involves Bailey and a wedding (not hers, a friend) and is called HERE COMES THE CORPSE.

BRC: What's on your summer reading list?

KW: I love to read a few different types of books at a time. Right now I'm finishing ATONEMENT, which I love, as my literary read. For mystery, I've just started THE DA VINCI CODE and as my educational read I'm using the summer to learn more about the Civil War by reading BATTLE CRY OF FREEDOM, which is considered one of the best one-volume books on the war. And I'd love to give a plug for a book called RULES OF THE WILD. My family and I just came back from East Africa, and this is a terrific novel about Kenya.

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PAST INTERVIEW

May 3, 2002

Kate White, whose "day job" is Editor-in-Chief of Cosmo magazine, turns her talents and her experiences into a best selling mystery IF LOOKS COULD KILL. Bookreporter.com's Roberta O'Hara and TBR's Co-founder Carol Fitzgerald teamed up to interview White about the basis for her characters and the reaction from those in the industry. As Carol noted, " I worked with Kate years ago at Mademoiselle magazine, which makes interviewing her all the more fun. Reading this book made me think about my magazine days and all the craziness that goes on in working at a fashion magazine. Kate captured the atmosphere perfectly"

BRC: You drew on years and years of experience to come up with the scenes at the magazine in IF LOOKS COULD KILL and many of your characters seem like composites of some of the best known --- and some little known --- names in the business. What have you heard from colleagues? How many people have come up to you and said, "Hey, is that supposed to be me, or so and so?"

KW: I really made up all the characters because I didn't want anyone to kill ME --- though I used great lines I'd heard colleagues say over the years. The funny thing is, people are starting to wonder if someone they know is in the book. Someone asked me yesterday: "Is the fashion editor in the book So and so or So and so? And I had to say "NEITHER." I'm sure I'm going to inadvertently make someone very annoyed.

BRC: It seemed like you were poking some fun at your own industry when you tossed in the fashion and make-up tidbits. Were you?

KW: A tiny bit. Because it can be a little ridiculous at times. But mostly I think it seems that way because the book is narrated by Bailey Weggins, a freelance crime story writer, and she's a bit of an outsider who finds a lot of the fashion and beauty stuff silly.

BRC: Cat Jones name is so similar to Kate White. Was this a little inside joke on your part?


KW: I wish I could say it was. But I was almost all the through the book before I realized I'd done it. I have a friend with the last name Jones and I know a makeup artist named Cat and I put the two together. But how totally Freudian of me to do it that way and not realize my slip. I considered changing Cat's name but by that point I was too attached to it.

BRC: You published two successful nonfiction titles --- WHY GOOD GIRLS DON'T GET AHEAD and GUTSY GIRLS DO and NINE SECRETS OF WOMEN WHO GET EVERYTHING THEY WANT. What made you decide to write a novel --- in fact, an entire mystery series? How long did you ruminate the idea?

KW: I always had a secret fantasy to do a mystery. I love mysteries so much and the idea of having a regular character was thrilling. In fact, when I first started thinking about it, there was no Sue Grafton or series with women. But I had to keep putting it off as I moved up in magazines and had children. Finally I realized that I had to do it or it would be too late. The biggest problem was getting a plot. But I saw a great tip in an interview we ran (when I was at Redbook) with Laura Day, who wrote PRACTICAL INTUITION. She said:"Put the question out to the universe." I did and an answer came back.

BRC: When did you find time to write between juggling a career and being the mother of two? Did you find a way to add a few hours to the day?

KW: Another tip from magazines helped me. I was a big procrastinator in my 20's. I pitched a piece on time management to help me cure my problem. I got lots of great ideas, but one in particular worked for me. Break a project up into bite-sized pieces. So I write every morning for an hour or so, weekends a bit longer. I never don't do it. But it's not overwhelming either.

BRC: Do you feel the same thrill seeing the book in the bookstore as you do seeing Cosmo on the newsstand? Or is it different?

KW: How did you know? Yes, I love seeing Cosmo on the newsstand. It's a rush. But seeing the book in a Barnes and Noble (and they only had 2 left!!) was great too. It's different because it's not a team effort. It's a little lonelier --- and scarier.

BRC: Do you find yourself going through the day thinking about Bailey and what she might be doing if she were at Cosmo?

KW: I don't think about what Bailey would do at Cosmo but I do think about her in general, especially as I'm lying in bed. She seems real to me and that feels a little odd. I like her and wish I knew her. Sometimes I just love having her in my head. Freaky, I know.

BRC: So, is Bailey a Cosmo Girl?

KW: Not totally. She'd like to be. She's single and loves guys but has a tough time navigating the dating world. And though she dresses in a cute way, she isn't totally together in the fashion and beauty arena. As she says, in the morning her bed head hairstyle looks like a hedgehog sitting on her head.

BRC: Tell us about the next book --- A BODY TO DIE FOR. What's next for Bailey? Will we see Jack Herlihy again? How much of it is done?

KW: It takes place at a spa. As Bailey says in ILCK, she occasionally does travel articles and she ends up going to this inn and spa where something really bad happens. I'm over half way through. And yes Jack is in the book, making Bailey's heart flutter, but also leaving her confused about what she really wants.

BRC: Have you already determined how many more books will be in the series? Are they all outlined?

KW: I hope a lot. I'm trying to think of the plot for the third now. So I can write and develop kind of at the same time.

BRC: And we just have to know --- do YOU think that toe cleavage is sexy?

KW: Toe cleavage? No, not me. But I love it when I see it on women. My feet just never seem very sexy.

BRC: How do you feel about being THE FIRST BOOK selected in Kelly Ripa's Reading Club?


KW: I can't believe it. I'm just in awe of her and her power. I'm so honored. I keep wondering if I need to give her my first born son.

BRC: Since you are a mystery lover, who are some of your favorite authors?

KW: I love English mysteries, especially anything by D.D. James, Elizabeth George and the Inspector Wexford series by Ruth Rendell. I also love Sue Grafton, Michael Connelly, Linda Fairstein, Patricia Cornwall, Mary Willis Walker, Diane Mott Davidson, Lisa Scottoline, Lynn Hightower, Jonathan Kellerman, and so many more. Last but not least, Anne White, my mom, whose first mystery, AN AFFINITY FOR MURDER, A Lake George Mystery, came out last year.

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