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Here are comments from our group of Advance Readers about Dan Burstein's THE SECRETS OF MARY MAGDALENE.
Alice from Parkersburg, WV
Have you previously read a book by Dan Burstein?
No, although I have a couple other of the Secrets books.
What other authors do you read?
I read a lot of fiction [McCammon, King, Koontz, etc.]. I also read nonfiction, but don't follow any particular author.
What did you think of SECRETS OF MARY MAGDALENE?
Hmm. I think the book was well put together and properly represents the premise --- to accumulate other writings on a topic into [one volume]. However, I find that [the book] tends to be repetitive in spots and contradictory in others. Many of the chapters repeated much of other contributors, and in places, some of them contradicted each other. I guess this is good because it shows that different people hold similar/dissimilar views, and that even people who do extensive research don't always come up with the same answers. From a reader's viewpoint, however, the repetition can become a little tiring. I appreciate the opportunity for a different layer of education to be presented also --- i.e. Tori Amos and the contributions from the web. This indicates that other people have thoughts and ideas and that they are as vital as those of researchers.
The book seems to be Christianity-centered. It assumes that the Bible [canonical gospels] is correct and that Jesus was Divine. [There is one place that indicates that this may not be the case.] It might be good to include another view --- that Jesus, the man, was a prophet and not necessarily holy or divine --- that he was not the son of god. Some of us out here aren't Christians as such or even religious. Perhaps that avenue could have been included.
Would you ever read a future book by Dan Burstein?
Yes.
Thanks for the opportunity to review this book prior to its publication. This is the first time I have been able to do that for you and I hope to do so again.
Carol from Aldan, PA
Have you previously read a book by Dan Burstein?
No, I have not previously read a book by Dan Burstein that I can recall.
What other authors do you read?
Authors that I read include David Baldacci, Patricia Corrnwell, Clive Cussler, Earlene Fowler, Tess Gerritsen, Jonathan Kellerman, Steve Martini, James Patterson, and Nicholas Sparks.
What did you think of SECRETS OF MARY MAGDALENE?
I have to preface my answer with the fact that I have little interest in religion, per se, but do have an interest in women in history, which is why the title caught my attention. I did find the book interesting, although I prefer lighter reading in the summer, and it was hard to concentrate at times. And occasionally, the uncorrected errors of the advance copy were a little distracting and some sentences did not make sense.
Would you ever read a future book by Dan Burstein?
Whether I would read another Burstein book would depend on the subject matter.
Thank you for the opportunity to read this book and comment on it.
Cathy from Aldan, PA
Have you previously read a book by Dan Burstein?
No.
What other authors do you read?
James Rollins, Douglas Preston & Lincoln Child, Dean Koontz, Clive Cussler, Jeffery Deaver, Charles De Lint, Steve Altan --- usually mystery/suspense/horror/fantasy. The complete list would be a newsletter unto itself.
What did you think of SECRETS OF MARY MAGDALENE?
Having been raised Catholic, I always wondered about Mary Magdalene's association with the Church; it always seemed there was much left unsaid. Reading a book like this invokes thought and makes me want to research and read more. This is the highest compliment I can give to a book. I have enjoyed it very much.
Would you ever read a future book by Dan Burstein?
It would have to be on a subject I was interested in or curious about, but yes. They did a good job covering all sides.
David from Newark, DE
Have you previously read a book by Dan Burstein?
No.
What other authors do you read?
Thomas Friedman's THE WORLD IS FLAT; Michio Kaku's EINSTEIN'S COSMOS; Hugh Downs's LETTER TO A GREAT GRANDSON; Bill Myers's ELI; Yann Martel's LIFE OF PI and Sherman Alexis's TOUGHEST INDIAN IN THE WORLD.
What did you think of SECRETS OF MARY MAGDALENE?
[It was an] interesting array of authors covering a wide spectrum of thoughts and views. I was aware of some of the concepts, but the articles put a lot of meat on those bones. I had always felt that women played a bigger role with Jesus, and that men, later in history, had contorted the scriptures toward their own political ends. [This] book supported those beliefs. [It is a] great book for an adult church group study/dialogue.
Would you ever read a future book by Dan Burstein?
Yes, but based on the subject vs just the editor's name.
Debby from Rapid City, SD
Have you previously read a book by Dan Burstein?
No.
What other authors do you read?
Mainly fiction [like those written by] Stephen White, Diane Mott Davidson, Jonathan Kellerman and Karin Slaughter (mysteries).
What did you think of SECRETS OF MARY MAGDALENE?
As the reviews have said, [it was] thought provoking. Some of the essays are fascinating --- as time evolves, so do our views. In a sense, this is one of the biggest mysteries of all time because will we ever know for sure what kind of a person she was?
Would you ever read a future book by Dan Burstein?
Yes.
Denise from Raytown, MO
Have you previously read a book by Dan Burstein?
I have not previously read any books by Mr. Burnstein.
What other authors do you read?
I have read many other authors who write about these topics, including Dan Brown, Steve Berry, Raymond Khoury and Lewis Perdue, etc. If you are asking about authors in general, there are far too many to list! I read everything but prefer the thriller genre above all others.
What did you think of SECRETS OF MARY MAGDALENE?
The book is good, but very much like a textbook. [As a] Catholic, I found it very interesting to read the author's work, though I generally prefer fiction. This is a book that I will have to read and read again because there is so much to it, and sometimes the language is hard to understand. The academic level of the book is also somewhat daunting to the average reader. I'm a high school librarian and this work is much too deep for any research done by students at our Catholic institution. I would like to share it with faculty who teach theology and get their opinion on it. The roundtable was particularly interesting as scholarly debates and discussions go. I liked the way that the chapters were organized and used to explain different things. My favorite was the different viewpoints on whether Jesus and Mary Magdalene were married. All in all, quite interesting and worthy of much further study.
Would you ever read a future book by Dan Burstein?
I'm not sure. It depends on subject and my interest level. Thank you very much for sending me this book and letting me review it.
Donna from Baltimore, MD
What other authors do you read?
As to what I read, it varies. If the nightly news is too depressing, I'll read a horror book since I know the good guys will win. Also, biographies are always interesting and often uplifting. It could be a catchy title at the thrift store or an intriguing review in a newsletter.
What did you think of SECRETS OF MARY MAGDALENE?
It isn't often I start to read a book, put it down, get my post-it notes and pencil and happily resume reading.
This starts on page xix with the next-to-last paragraph in the Introduction, which states that when Hebrew is translated into Greek, the word Ruah is no longer feminine, but neuter. It continues throughout this wonderful book, stating that the New Testament books were selected, by men, in effect putting Mary M. on a dusty shelf in the back in the dark --- pleasing St. Peter, no doubt.
You need an open mind to read this book and more than one copy to give to your likewise open-minded friends.
As a 60-yr-old woman who survived Catholic school and whose religious questions were always rebuffed with: "You must pray," I am relieved that these questions are shared by many learned scholars who say: "Look what we found. Make up your own mind with much more information than you had 50 years ago."
This is a book you will read more than once and on which you'll use more than one pack of post-its. Write small and think big.
Would you ever read a future book by Dan Burstein?
I would definitely read anything Dan Burstein would write. I love this Mary Magdalene book and will refer to it often, whether with friends, or blindered Bible fanatics.
Donna from Grand Rapids, MI
Have you previously read a book by Dan Burstein?
I have not recently read a Dan Burstein book.
What other authors do you read?
Steve Berry, Dan Brown, John Grisham, Nicholas Sparks, Fern Michaels, Francine Rivers and Joseph Finder.
What did you think of SECRETS OF MARY MAGDALENE?
The book was fascinating. I never looked at Mary Magdalene that way before. It was not as easy to read as a novel, but I liked it.
Would you ever read a future book by Dan Burstein?
It depends on the subject matter if I would read another of his books.
Jenny from Jefferson, LA
Have you previously read a book by Dan Burstein?
No.
What other authors do you read?
Tom Clancy, Michael Crichton, Lori Wick, James Rollins and Stephen Coonts.
What did you think of SECRETS OF MARY MAGDALENE?
Overall, I thought that it was a very good representation of a number of different viewpoints and arguments that tried to remain unbiased to whatever extent possible, while covering the subject matter from all angles. Within the context of each author's piece, the opinion was clear, but factual evidence was used to explain and support the points made. There were a few sections which seemed to push that their opinion must be true without seeming to have as much "fact" to back it up, but I thought that the book successfully presented the information while still allowing the reader to digest and decide for himself or herself.
Would you ever read a future book by Dan Burstein?
Yes.
Kathy from Flushing, MI
Have you previously read a book by Dan Burstein?
No.
What other authors do you read?
The question should be who don't I read! I tend to choose books [by] whether or not the plot and/or subject strikes my interest. Some of my favorites range from Janet Evanovich to Greg Iles, Christopher Moore, John Hart (my new favorite), Jodi Picoult and Robert Hicks.
What did you think of SECRETS OF MARY MAGDALENE?
I would go so far as to describe the work created by Dan Burstein and Arne De Keijzer as the definitive "text" on Mary Magdalene. From the choice of contributors (I loved the inclusion of Tori Amos) to the thoughtful organization of the material, Burstein and De Keijzer have obviously accomplished what they set out to do --- to bring an
understanding of history's most "misunderstood" woman. I would recommend this book to anyone who wants to know a little about Mary Magdalene to someone who really wants to delve further into her life. One can easily pick and choose the topics of interest.
Would you ever read a future book by Dan Burstein?
It would depend solely on the subject matter. I have a profound interest in Mary Magdalene, so this was an easy choice for me. If I were interested in the subject, I would definitely seek out more works by Burstein.
Mary Angela from Big Sandy, TN
Have you previously read a book by Dan Burstein?
No, this is the first of his books that I have read.
What other authors do you read?
Lisa Jackson, Fern Michaels, Dan Brown, Susan Wiggs, Debbie Macomber, John Grisham and Nicholas Sparks.
What did you think of SECRETS OF MARY MAGDALENE?
It had its good points, but some of it was sort of boring. It has a slow start. [The text describes pictures, and I think it would help if images were included so people can actually see what is being written about.]
Would you ever read a future book by Dan Burstein?
I may. I was looking at a list of his previous books and one or two caught my eye.
Mike from Long Beach, NY
Have you previously read a book by Dan Burstein?
This was my first Dan Burstein book.
What other authors do you read?
Recently, I've read David L. Robbins, Robin Cook, Thomas E. Ricks and Lawrence Wright.
What did you think of SECRETS OF MARY MAGDALENE?
I enjoyed the book, although it got too "dry" in spots. The different viewpoints on the controversial topic of Mary Magdalene gave me new perspective on the issue. I liked especially the variety of opinions that are allowed full range without editorial judgments. This volume is a great riff on the recent spate of novels on the controversial Mary
Magdalene theme. Reading this book is a great backgrounder for all of these fact/fiction tomes.
Would you ever read a future book by Dan Burstein?
I would definitely read another book by Dan Burstein.
Maggie from Woods Hole, MA
Have you previously read a book by Dan Burstein?
Yes, I have read both SECRETS OF THE CODE and SECRETS OF ANGELS AND
DEMONS.
What other authors do you read?
A number of mystery writers --- Stephen Booth, Ann Perry, the Kellermans and J. A. Jance. Also, everything written by Douglas Preston and Lincoln Child, both separately and together.
What did you think of SECRETS OF MARY MAGDALENE?
I enjoyed it. It wasn't aimed at explaining a book, like the previous ones I have read, but at enlightening us about a person and her changing place in history and mythology. I was vaguely familiar with Mary Magdalene's place in Orthodox Christianity and had heard of the French legends (mostly in other books); I also knew of her role in the CODE, but wasn't aware of the sources of much of it, nor did I know about the whole Gnostic part of it.
Would you ever read a future book by Dan Burstein?
Probably, if the topic was of interest to me. Maybe after Dan Brown comes out with his next blockbuster? :-)
Patricia from Fulton, MO
Have you previously read a book by Dan Burstein?
No.
What other authors do you read?
I read a wide variety. If I read anything having to do with the Bible, it's usually by Grant R. Jeffrey, Max Lucado, Charles Swindoll or Chuck Missler. I also like to read biographies of saints and Biblical fiction.
What did you think of SECRETS OF MARY MAGDALENE?
I enjoyed reading this. I found it very thought provoking. This book made me see things from a different perspective. Although I don't believe Jesus had a romantic relationship with Mary Magdalene, I believe they had a relationship equal to that of his male disciples. It makes me see how different Jesus was and why he stood apart from others of his time, having included women. It makes me, as a woman, feel more included in Christianity. I never gave much thought to Mary Magdalene before; now I feel she should be given the same respect as the other disciples. To deny her role is just a continuation of the attitude that woman are somehow less than men. Jesus apparently did not feel that way. The Church that supports that attitude is not following the example of Christ.
All this being said, I think that many of the opinions in the book are just speculation. We know so little that just about any theory is possible. It was enjoyable reading the book, and contemplating all the possibilities.
Would you ever read a future book by Dan Burstein?
Yes, I would.
Thanks so much for giving me the opportunity to read this.
Reeca from Ripley, MS
Have you previously read a book by Dan Burstein?
No, I have not.
What other authors do you read?
I read a lot of different authors. Of course, Dan Brown and Steve Berry. I also like Greg Iles, Barbara Wood, and Douglas Preston and Lincoln Child, just to name a few.
What did you think of SECRETS OF MARY MAGDALENE?
I thought the book was wonderful. It basically told the different interpretations of the story of Mary Magdalene. It was very rich in history and knowledge. I learned so much about that period of time. It was such a thought-provoking book. I loved it.
Would you ever read a future book by Dan Burstein?
I will definitely read another book.
Rita from Centennial, CO
Have you previously read a book by Dan Burstein?
This is the first of Dan Burstein's books that I have read.
What other authors do you read?
I read a wide variety of authors. I have just finished Jimmy Carter's book and NAKED PHOENIX by 12 different mystery writers. I love Nevada Barr, Janet Evanovich, Louise Erdrich, Sue Monk Kidd, Gregory MacGuire, Jim Fergus, Phillipa Gregory, Margaret Coel, Isabel Allende, Daniel Silva and, of course, Dan Brown, among many.
What did you think of SECRETS OF MARY MAGDALENE?
I absolutely loved it. It sparked my interest in this area. Now, I want to explore the films and other books that were mentioned. I actually began this book with some questions about whether or not I would like it; I have no such questions now. I think that it covers such a variety of opinions, gives an appreciation of the scholarship that is involved in studying Mary Magdalene, and is a tribute to womanhood. I am amazed at what I did not know.
Would you ever read a future book by Dan Burstein?
Yes, I would definitely read a future book by Dan Burnstein.
Sandy from Greenfield, MA
Have you previously read a book by Dan Burstein?
No, I have not.
What other authors do you read?
A wide selection. For example: Jon Fasman, Jane Plaidy, Belva Plain and Rosamunde Pilcher.
What did you think of SECRETS OF MARY MAGDALENE?
I liked it. I enjoyed the many points of view. It gave me a lot of food for tought. I am planning to share the book with my Pastoral Minsister. I am curious to hear what she thinks.
Would you ever read a future book by Dan Burstein?
Yes!
Sheila from Danvers, MA
Have you previously read a book by Dan Burstein?
This is my first book by Dan Burstein.
What other authors do you read?
Lately I've been reading Joanne Harris, Jonathan Safran Foer, T.C. Boyle, Elie Wiesel and others. My absolutely favorite author is Pat Conroy.
What did you think of SECRETS OF MARY MAGDALENE?
I found SECRETS OF MARY MAGDALENE to be highly readable and very informative. The format was interesting, albeit a little different for me. The list of contributors is very impressive --- people whose opinions I am interested in. THE DA VINCI CODE opened my eyes to how women are viewed by the Catholic Church, and SECRETS OF MARY MAGDALENE confirmed it. I particularly enjoyed Chapters 4 and 5 --- especially the roundtable of experts.
On a personal note, thank you for this opportunity. I thoroughly enjoyed the experience.
Would you ever read a future book by Dan Burstein?
Yes, I would consider another book of Dan Burstein's, but only if I wanted to learn something.
Steven from Stayton, OR
Have you previously read a book by Dan Burstein?
I read one of Dan Burstein's other books, SECRETS OF THE DA VINCI CODE, and I found that it treated the novel --- unlike other books [on this subject] --- with respect, recognizing all of the time that the book is a novel. That novel, Burstein admits here, awakened many people to role of Mary Magdalene. Sixty million copies sold, plus other millions seeing the movie, keep Mary Magdalene forefront in our thoughts these days.
What other authors do you read?
I read 79 books in 2005 but I am not on the same pace I was then. So far, this year, I read 27 books; the most recent was THE GREAT DALUGE by Douglas Brinkley, a detailed history of what happened when Hurricane Katrina hit New Orleans and the Gulf Coast. I took time off from reading THE RUINS, a novel by Scott Smith, to read SECRETS OF MARY MAGDALENE.
What did you think of SECRETS OF MARY MAGDALENE?
SECRETS OF MARY MAGDALENE is a compendium of articles written either for this book or taken from other sources. It is indeed great to see all of the research gathered in one place. One does not have to read this book front to back, but can pick and choose the pieces he or she finds most interesting.
Starting with the Introduction by Elaine Pagels, she outlines the history of Mary Magdalene and how the various gospel writers, not just the ones in the New Testament, treated her. We see, for example, the arguments Mary has with Peter on her role in the Church. It is easy to see that she lost out and the male-dominated Church was favored, relegating women to subservient roles. I remember when women had to wear head coverings in Church, the most recent example of how the Catholic Church treats and thinks of women.
I like the way Dan Burstein approaches his topics --- not just his voice analyzing the situation or issue, but involving other voices to show the width and scope of the research on the topic. I recommend this book to other readers. [There is] no need to research on your own the history and ideas on Mary Magdalene; you can find those here.
Would you ever read a future book by Dan Burstein?
I do plan on reading his book, SECRETS OF ANGELS AND DEMONS as I found that book much better than THE DA VINCI CODE.
Lisa from Folsom, CA
Have you previously read a book by Dan Burstein?
No.
What other authors do you read?
Historical mysteries [by] Peter Tremayne, Steven Saylor, Lindsay Davis, Margaret Frazer, Caroline Roe and John Maddox Roberts...
What did you think of SECRETS OF MARY MAGDALENE?
I liked the historical articles about Mary Magdalene, [but] too often, the same bits repeated themselves (i.e. Mary Magdalene wasn't a prostitute.)
Would you ever read a future book by Dan Burstein?
Probably not --- too much of the same story. [The] book should be called the MARY MAGDALENE READER.
Allison from New York, NY
Have you previously read a book by Dan Burstein?
No.
What other authors do you read?
Margaret Atwood, Arthur Golden, Audrey Niffenegger, Carlos Ruiz Zafon, Julia Glass and Michael Chabon.
What did you think of SECRETS OF MARY MAGDALENE?
It was interesting --- I don't know if it was what I expected, though. It was a lot more serious [and fact based than I thought it would be]. However, it was well researched and it reached some interesting conclusions. I would not recommend it to many people, though. The publishers are trying to cash in on THE DA VINCI CODE by tying them together, but it is much more of an "intellectual" book than most readers of THE DA VINCI CODE would be looking for.
Would you ever read a future book by Dan Burstein?
I don't know --- I'd have to be in the mood for serious reading.
Bill from Minneapolis, MN
What did you think of SECRETS OF MARY MAGDALENE?
Not having read any of the other Secrets books, I was not sure of what to expect. Without a doubt, I am now convinced (but I was already) that THE DA VINCI CODE by Dan Brown is a fiction novel. The various chapters were either written by an "expert" on Mary Magdalene or at least religious art or works, or are transcripts from various
interviews conducted by the editors. These are scholarly people with tons of research background, but this is really not a debate about the authenticity of THE DA VINCI CODE or even a polite argument about whether the code is a [work] of fiction or fact. This becomes a repeating theme --- the research does not support Brown's conclusions.
I was interested in the first couple of chapters, but it goes on and on. The chapters are very redundant in their research, concepts, and advancing arguments. Toward the end of the book there is work about the various art pieces around the world, and more modern "legends" or thoughts. Those were interesting, but getting there was painful.
The entire book could have been reduced to a nice magazine article and provided the same basic thoughts and conclusions. I was more interested in the various comments related to the development (or lack of) thought throughout the development of modern Christian dogma. The basic contentions that Mary Magdalene was deliberately left out, or at least marginalized, because she was a woman is an interesting discussion that does have merit in how we currently view our Christian values and practices. Again, that theme was repeated numerous times and became tedious to read, looking for a new idea.
I finished the book because I said I would. I enjoy research and some Biblical history. I found this book interesting at the beginning and very tiring as the pages turned. It works too hard to prove that THE DA VINCI CODE is fiction (which we all know, including Dan Brown) and rests on the hope that using the name of the book frequently will sell this one.
Thank you for the book, and I look forward to other reviews and comments on Bookreporter.com.
Rosemary from Oakesdale, WA
What other authors do you read?
I read books by Tim LaHaye and Jerry Jenkins, Diana Gabaldon, James Patterson, Clive Cussler, Jan Karon, Alex Kava, Erica Spindler, Joseph F. Girzone, Max Lucado and Philip Yancey; a few written by Dean Koontz and Stephen King; Stephen Donaldson and many other authors. I do love to read.
What did you think of SECRETS OF MARY MAGDALENE? Would you ever read a future book by Dan Burstein?
Thank you for the copy of SECRETS OF MARY MAGDALENE. I do want to be honest with you though, and let you know what I am thinking. I am on page 74 and am having sort of a difficult time wading through everything. I will get it read, but not [within] the time frame you would.... It is not that I don't find it interesting. I do not care for
the format and I believe it would be so with any subject. Please don't get me wrong, I would read a future book by Mr. Burstein if it is not in the same format.
Debbie from Valrico, FL
What did you think of SECRETS OF MARY MAGDALENE?
I am sorry, but I didn't like this book. I am a Born-again Christian and believe the Bible, in its entirety, to be the only correct scripture. The fact that the people that contributed to Mr. Burstein's book use the alternate "gospels" to substantiate their idea of Mary being Jesus wife and had offspring, has made the story of Mary of
Magdalene untrue. The alternate gospels were written by authors who used the names of the disciples and others to authenticate what they have written. Some of those gospels were written after Thomas, Mary and Judas were dead. I feel this is just another author jumping on the bandwagon of the THE DA VINCI CODE and milking it. Sorry.
Vincent from Tamarac, FL
Have you previously read a book by Dan Burstein?
No, I have not previously read books by Mr. Burstein.
What other authors do you read?
I read mainly nonfiction authors.
What did you think of SECRETS OF MARY MAGDALENE?
I thought SECRETS OF MARY MAGDALENE was somewhat factual.
Would you ever read a future book by Dan Burstein?
I would read a future book by Mr. Burstein
Luanne from Vermilion, OH
Have you previously read a book by Dan Burstein?
I have never read any books by Dan Burstein.
What other authors do you read?
I love Jodi Picoult, Amy Tan, Jennifer Chiaverini, Adriana Trigiani, plus many, many more.
What did you think of SECRETS OF MARY MAGDALENE?
I was pleasantly surprised. You know, I probably would never have picked this book up if it had been just on a shelf. I loved the history behind [it]. I am not saying I agree with everything in it; but I enjoyed reading the author's take on it.
Would you ever read a future book by Dan Burstein?
Yes.
Gloria from Goldsboro, NC
Have you previously read a book by Dan Burstein?
This is my first book by Burstein. He was very thorough, although there was much jumping back and forth with other interviews.
What did you think of SECRETS OF MARY MAGDALENE?
It was fascinating reading. I had read THE DA VINCI CODE first, as that was fascinating and --- in many ways --- faster and easier to read than SECRETS OF MARY MAGDALENE. Society, even in Biblical times, was controlled and managed by males and what they decreed was the law. It is a pity that here in the twenty-first century, women are still being crucified and not permitted to participate in the wealth of the nation.
Would you ever read a future book by Dan Burstein?
Yes, I would read another one by Mr. Burstein. It was slow reading, but kept me on the edge [and it was hard to] put the book down.
Linda from Freeville, NY
Have you previously read a book by Dan Burstein?
No, this is the first of Dan Burstein's books I have read.
What other authors do you read?
I greatly enjoy reading mysteries by authors ranging from Mignon G. Eberhart to Walter Mosley, and I am reading through the "canons" of Alice Hoffman, Barbara Kingsolver, Carol Shields and many others.
What did you think of SECRETS OF MARY MAGDALENE?
I expected to pick this up and dip in and out of different authors' sections, like reading a scientific journal. I was pleasantly surprised to find that Burstein has edited the book in such a way that there is a continuity that made me want to read it from beginning to end. The editorial comments that preface each individual contribution help to
maintain this cohesive tone. The various selections were well chosen both for their writing and their sometimes provocative content. I thought this was a very engaging survey of current thinking about Mary Magdalene.
Would you ever read a future book by Dan Burstein?
Possibly.
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